Excluded Dice

Several cards allow you to roll a third or further die as part of a roll that is normally only 2 dice.

Abilities like these have a few properties in common:

•The extra dice are rolled at the same time as the original 2 dice in the roll.

•The dice to be used as part of the roll are selected after all rerolls, die manipulation, swaps, and other bonuses are applied.

•The dice that are not used in the final roll can never be used to trigger abilities that look at the results of a die or a roll.

For example, Udjat Eye:

Each time you roll a 1 on any die, gain 1 life.

•This can never use the excluded die of a roll to trigger this ability.

I have a question from your Anatomy of a Roll:

How does an ability like Alnabi Mosa work? ... Does this fire as #2 - "die modification" or as #4 "any ability that checks the result of a die"?

•Alnabi Mosa's ability, like Sporan, Udjat Eye, and Mace of the Scorpion King, is dependant on the result of the die or roll in order to have an effect. Its effect does modify dice, true, but the trigger is the part that matters here.

So, you're saying that if you have Udjat Eye and A(lnabi) M(osa) in play, you can choose Udjat Eye first to gain life for the 1, then change it with AM?

•Players with multiple abilities that trigger at the same time can use them in any order they choose. So, yes, you can process these abilities in the order you have described.

Would Shan Wen Jia work like Udjat Eye with Alnabi Mosa? If you rolled a 1 on a die and used Shan Wen Jia would you get the +3 to your roll for your 1 and still get the die changed to a 3? Same with Sporan, would you get the +3 and the reroll? and on that line, if you do can you trigger the armor again if you roll a second 1?

•These abilities all reference the value of the dice in the roll, and thus will occur at the same time. As with other cases where multiple abilities can be used at the same time, the player who controls them both chooses the order in which they are processed.

•Re-rolls are part of the orignal roll, however, and therefore cannot trigger card abilities multiple times.

I want to double check this combo I just thought of, so I'm running it by you fine folks. It's already been established in the FAQ that when you use the "precision" ability, it's you, the wielder, who's doing the reroll, regardless of who's physically changing their dice.

Now, let's say you're in a multiplayer free-for-all, and an opponent is attacking another warrior that's not you. You force one die in the attack roll to be rerolled, and the result is a 1. That means you can move, thanks to Jue Ying's second ability, right? Even if it's not your dice, even if you're not participating, just because it's been established that I'm doing the reroll, does that let me trigger "Kuai shu jue duan"?

PS-- would this also work with Udjat Eye?

•Re-rolls are not new rolls - they are a modification to the existing roll. When you get to the step where Sporan, Jue Ying and other things are used (abilities that check the results of the dice or roll), they check rolls that you made - not rolls that you modified.

•In short, no. This doesn't work.